obama r obama legislation it's -- the problem is capabilities of a broad concept and can mean a number of things. >> they are probably there now. >> in terms of capability. >> if you think capability, iran has been there for awhile. it doesn't make any sense. >> in terms of politics, your point that is fascinating is let us all recall in 2008, one of the major differences between barack obama and hillary clinton in the primary that emerged was a willingness to sit-down with him. they doubled down on him. they said no, no, no. they turned what looked like a weakness into a virtue. they said we are strong enough to talk to our allies. real strength is being able to talk to your enemies. now, here we are four years later, heading for a foreign policy debate when the fruits were leaked in the paper we are going to see tomorrow night how they play it. do they embrace it in. >> international cooperation is something that is popular with the country. it all depends on the spin put on it after the fact. nobody wants to appear weak. >> no one wants war. >> nobody wants war either. you are right